Are Honda's days as an enthusiast’s choice numbered?

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Are Honda's days as an enthusiast’s choice numbered?

Post by JoeJoe on Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:37 am

Just read this piece, thought it was interesting;

http://www.canibeat.com/2012/02/pushing-forward-lester-bracero-static-tsx/#more-41688

He has a point. Will honda ever go back to making cars like they did in the 90's? What do people think...

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Post by Guest on Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:03 am

I was just saying this to a mate recently. They should start making cars like they did in the 80s upwards. Like being out a 2012 ef9 and so on. It would be epic to see old cars with better technology but the same old school looks.

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Post by The Blue Beast on Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:42 am

I dunno could they bring out cars like that again, There having enough trouble with the 2.0 i-vtec engine and emissions as it is, So never again would we see 1.6 vtec engines. And now day people wouldn't spend new car money on the likes of a 2012 EG6 lol.


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Re: Are Honda's days as an enthusiast’s choice numbered?

Post by EJ Eire on Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:28 am

It's a fair point, but I think it's more down to the general evolution of cars over the years. VW is probably the best example of this. Look at the Golf GTI as it progressed through the years. It got bigger, heavier, more complex as the years went by and lost it's appeal as a driver's car, and that's what I like about Hondas. Look at any new cars on the market now. If it doesn't have a plush interior, balls of safety and the latest technology with a fuel efficient lump it's not going to sell. It's sad, but I think gradually cars have got "worse" from a driving sense over time. Yes, cars at the pinnacle of engineering design like Ferrari are improving dramatically all the time, but realistically the average Joe will never get the chance to own one of them to experience that.

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Post by CrunchieR on Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:25 am

I dont think we will ever see the golden years of honda cars ever again. the ivtec is just not the same and never will be... with the tax on emissions nowadays all companies think about is how to reduce emissions... The days of vtec are numbered... Hybrid tec is next... ha...

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Post by JoeJoe on Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:39 am

crunchie11 wrote:Hybrid tec is next... ha...

Ya, like the new cr-z. Looks like thats the way things are heading..

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Re: Are Honda's days as an enthusiast’s choice numbered?

Post by Gixxxr on Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:51 am

yes

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Post by CrunchieR on Thu Mar 22, 2012 6:17 am

Grr wrote:yes

The stig has spoken... A man of many words... ha... nice

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Post by Gixxxr on Thu Mar 22, 2012 6:27 am

some say Razz

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Post by 16v-tec on Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:00 am

honda have gone the same road ford did back in the early 90s,they made great cars up to the sapphire cossie and rs turbo escort then started making crap

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Post by JDM for life on Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:21 am

I think they realised that the money was to be made in after sales, ie. they made the cars to well and as such they didn't break or people weren't back to replace this that and the other, their ideal and ethos was to produce a car that for its price was the best it could be, and this in turn manifested itself in low after sales marketing. Now cars are built where components have a short enough shelf life and they know that there will be after sales sales. The likes of Renault or fiat must make all their money on after sales, I would love to see some figures. It wasn't a ploy or game plan on their behalf, it just turned out that way, luckily for them ) not their fault they couldn't produce or source components and parts to the same specification as Honda.

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Post by jillybeanbag on Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:31 am

I hate new cars lol!

They should all go back making old school cars!! If I could I'd just have a whole load of old school cars....but I can't lol!!

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Post by JDM for life on Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:42 am

Fact Jill, I have said this for years, 90s jap cars were the best cars ever built, nothing else will ever come close, it's all a money game now.
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The first edition integra type r was built at a loss, all the tegs were built at a loss for Honda to prove a point that they cold build a superior road car at an affordable price ) EPIC

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Post by ChristopherEP70 on Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:58 am

Companys wont go back to making them kinda cars them days are long gone

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Post by timmy the 8 ball on Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:25 am

days are gone and gone for a reason lads emission laws are too harsh now a days also
also there is too much technology in cars also safety etc

it would be cool to see some of the cars come back but would would actually buy them

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Post by jillybeanbag on Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:34 am

JDM for life wrote:Fact Jill, I have said this for years, 90s jap cars were the best cars ever built, nothing else will ever come close, it's all a money game now.
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The first edition integra type r was built at a loss, all the tegs were built at a loss for Honda to prove a point that they cold build a superior road car at an affordable price ) EPIC

What I never knew that Dave! that's madness!!

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Re: Are Honda's days as an enthusiast’s choice numbered?

Post by JoeJoe on Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:18 am

Although there is a new ctr coming isnt there...

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Post by Ger-b18c on Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:49 am

JoeJoe wrote:Although there is a new ctr coming isnt there...

Yup next year I think plans are its gonna be turbo

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Post by Lar92 on Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:07 am

New civic is hideous I think the last of the real Honda's is our mugen rr civic which we will probably never see in Ireland http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChObhkCP_yo

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Post by JDM for life on Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:25 am

Some day maybe, give it 20 years (

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Post by 16v-tec on Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:33 am

well when you look at the likes of the new minis(not so mini) and new beetles would you really want an updated eg6,dc2 or any updated car for that matter,they are only making cars that are readily recycled these days,i mean herself was involved in a tip over a year ago in a 96 civic coupe which was repaired for less than 100 quid whereas the 05 focus that caused the accident was a complete rite off,they just dont make them like they used to anymore same for every manufacturer really Roll Eyes

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Post by JoeJoe on Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:34 pm

Ger-b18c wrote:plans are its gonna be turbo

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Post by Ger-b18c on Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:34 pm

Ya IRS fairly sh1t but I think its all because of emmissions :sick:

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